Seller: etc3rock (815) 100%, Location: Los Angeles, California, Ships to: US, Item: 254262345147 Antique Arts & Crafts Mission Style Hand Crafted Copper Metalware Vase Bases or holders of some kind by Carence Crafters Chicago, Illinois circa 1908 to 1911 Acid Etched in an adapted Macintosh Glasgow Roses design Size: larger one is; 3 3/4” tall x 3 1/2” square smaller one is; 2 3/4” tall x 2 5/8” square in OK condition in a 7 day Auction listing ending Wed. June 19, 2019 Description SIZE: larger one is; 3 3/4” tall x 3 1/2” square : smaller one is; 2 3/4” tall x 2 5/8” square in OK condition *** these originally were a bright copper with a dark patina for the inset areas of the adapted Charles Rennie Macintosh Glasgow Roses design. They had not been very well cleaned with a metal polish and the white residue had made a film in the roses design that had turned a bit green. The old hardened polish was thicker in the lines of. The polishing had dulled most of the bright copper area and taken the varnish or dulled the varnish of some kind from both areas. I spent more than a few hours with a small wooden skewer, diluted lemon juice & vinegar removing the old hardened white polish residue. One could not tell that the original design was a dark patina in the roses area. I have left them unwaxed. They will darken. Then, one could apply a wax *** these had/have some kind of a like matt, thick finish like a thick matt paint on the insides that is mostly gone on the larger of the two and is not hard to just clean away. I didn’t touch the sides of but the top of the bottoms were just like loose dirt *** these have some bends to the sides of and the smaller one has one side bent inward *** there are some splatter drops on one side of the larger one *** together they weigh about 1 lb. They could be professionally restored. One could buy at the hardware or hobby store a solution that would darken the remaining bright copper. I’ve been a dealer for quite a while. I know not to touch something especially Arts & Crafts Mission but these were different. The cool thing is finding they were marked on the inside. Carence Crafters were in business just a few short years, circa 1908 to 1911. They made a variety of items in an acid etched style including jewelry, candleholders, trays, desk sets, boxes and picture frames. I don’t know what these are? They could be boxes without lids but why is the bottom inverted and why the weak matt like paint finish on the inside. Also no wear marks. I think they held square glass vases or pottery pieces. The ? is because on the inside, the bottom piece sides are slanted, things put in there would get stuck. That’s why I wonder what these were for. Long/short; The bad: these are in used shape, please look at the photos. The good: they are really beautiful. If you research and see images of, most of the things known are trays. There isn’t much known history of this company or their output *** the smaller of the two has more of the darker nice color patina in the roses design and reflects more of what these originally looked like. My cleaning didn’t effect the remaining patina much as the hardened white residue had already done that to the like varnish and such. The larger one already had a weak patina. Payment, Shipping and Policies If you have LESS THAN 10 + FEEDBACK, please send a simple Hi, introduction, email, before bidding U.S. : USPS Priority *** ( PACKED very WELL & waterproof ) *** I am a good conscientious packer *** I pay for COMPLIMENTARY INSURANCE. I ALWAYS send tracking number to the buyer *** Can Combine Shipping U.S. : PAYPAL, and VERY ACCEPTABLE, to an email ? for other. Escrow agreeable. I like GOOD business. INTERNATIONAL : No International for this listing Happy Return Policy for the United States Only; with an e-mail sent within 14 days after receiving item. On Jun-13-19 at 04:58:40 PDT, seller added the following information: revision: two of the bottom corners of the larger piece are a bit bent so it kind of rocks a bit from side to side... Condition: in OK condition. See description. Loss of original patina., Style: Arts & Crafts/Mission Style, Depth: 3 1/2", Sub-Style: American, Maker: Carence Crafters Chicago, Material: Copper, Width: 3 1/2", Original/Reproduction: Original, California Prop 65 Warning: I don't know I don't think so., Type: maybe vase holder, Color: Brown, Height: 3 3/4"