Seller: goodoldstuff419 (483) 100% , Location: Bryan, Ohio, Ships to: US, Item: 391628005514 These are from the 30,s and hang about 21" as seen in the pictures. The shades are in rough shape and are only being included because of the design that fits on the lamp, they can be redone. The lamps are missing some paint and the wiring is not safe, needs replaced you could say a "project". Nice look to them. Please see the pictures they are part of the description and you be the judge. Thanks for looking.