Seller: justgoodoldstuff (321) 100%, Location: Houston, Texas, Ships to: US, Item: 182351050186 For those who saw the first description, I was off base and thanks to Professor Charles, here in Houston, I have a new expert opinion which has brought new light to this story. Some experts say pieces like this are not always the most collectible because of the subject matter and condition. I disagree but understand why some say this. To me, this is an extraordinary piece of folk art history with historical meaning and should not be forever lost because of the condition, because it is not a fine art piece, because the market is down on religious textiles or whatever reason one has to discard such a fine example of folk art history. Folk art is created by a untrained artist or amateur with sometimes minimal means of the media they choose to use. Materials would have to be readily or easily obtained. Someone wanted to creatively express or document a vision or time period in their present day. This figural panel of embroidery was probably made between the 18th and 19th century (some even say 17th century) in Sicily showing St. Joseph holding baby Jesus and surrounded by patrons. We believe the king is Charles VII or Ferdinand III of Naples. Religion and state were huge factors during those early centuries. What people chose to hang or use for visual decoration were either religious themes, landscapes or portraits. Women of the house would have little time to do such work. She would have awakened to a mountain of chores, leaving very little time to sit, relax and do decorative needle work and if she did, it would have been mending or sewing the clothes they needed. A more likely person would have been the nun or monk from a convent or monastery doing this to earn income for items they needed. There was a saying they used calling this " nuns work". The condition is not as good as we would like but, on the other hand, it does let us see the paper engraving it was sewn to which was rather odd because that would have normally been the pattern that was pricked or pounced and then removed. This one was not and you can easily see the paper and Latin words. The faces, baby angels and hands were painted in oils and would have been applied later. This would make a rare study piece for a university or museum or even better, the collector of folk art. Maybe the market is down on such pieces but who knows what it will be in the future. Now is the time to acquire pieces like this, put them away for a future investment or put it on loan to your favorite university in the art history or theology department so they can study this piece and become the detective for the past. Like.... why red threads on the left arm of Joseph, what is on top of his staff, spikenard?, green dye was harder to make?, the four leaf clover and symbols, who is the king?, are those bunch berries or dogwood?. There is so much interesting and fun research still to be done. Because St. Joseph was not a main character in that time period, but became and is today, makes it more rare because there is so little art of him for sale today. It could be restored, but should not, and does need to be preserved by a professional. Religious history, no matter the condition, needs to be saved and live on through us, the new 'patrocinium' (protector) It measures 7'' x 9". I do not think the frame is original but will be included. This will be shipped with signature delivery and insurance only. Condition: Some parts of the embroidery's condition are not a 'blessing'. A wonderful teaching tool or study piece for those that do not condemn a textile that may be 200 (give or take) years old. Lets learn from this historical piece because there is still so much beauty there and the principle subject matter of St. Joseph is rare. In comparison to other icons, St. Joseph stayed in the shadows until his time to shine, "The Patronage/Cult Of St. Joseph".